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From: Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: [lojban] Re: da pe le tanru
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la liuIs cusku di'e

> .u'u mi ba citka pa le mupli

i zo'o a'o le mupli do kukte

> i zo sanmi ponse re lo te sumti
> i xu lu midju sanmi li'u ponse lo te sumti pe zo sanmi
> (to mi catavla fi lo tanru toi) ?

i go'i 

> i mi pu viska lo lujvo poi ponse <more sumti places than the ones related to
> the
> main gismu of the lujvo>.
> 
> I'm not good enough in lojban to express my problem.... :)
> I don't understand why "mijysai" has more sumti places than the ones related
> to
> sanmi. What rules that?
> Do that happen to tanru?

A tanru has the place structure of its tertau, but lujvo are different.
The place structure of lujvo cannot be obtained unambiguously from the
place structures of its components. There are guiding principles, but
no strict rules. In general, it is preferrable to account for every 
place of every component. Sometimes places from more than one component
come together into one place. Sometimes a place of one component is
"filled" by the place of another component so that both disappear from
the resulting lujvo: for example {mampa'u} means "x1 is the maternal
grandfather of x2". The x2 of patfu is filled with the x1 of mamta
and that place disappears, leaving only the x1 of patfu and the x2
of mamta in the final place structure. 

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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