From robin@bilkent.edu.tr Wed Oct 29 08:33:41 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AEtGH-0007MM-Gu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:33:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD2531DD6 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:33:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp117.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.117]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB1B2D423 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:32:58 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3F9FEE71.9080300@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:44:33 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: About having lunch.... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 6522 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Llu'is Batlle i Rossell wrote: > Hi! > > I don't know how can I utter something like "I have lunch here". > I suggest: > mi vi citka le dormijysai > > But that meaning is "I eat the lunch here". It isn't the same... so anyone > suggests a better way of saying that? What is the difference between eating lunch and having lunch? English frequently uses "have" where the action involved is obvious. If you want to emphasise the whole event of lunch rather than the mere eating of it, I suppose you could use a "nu" construction, but I can't really see the point. In many natural languages, you'd have to say "eat lunch" anyway. robin.tr -- "I declare this sentence a performative!" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin