From robin@bilkent.edu.tr Sun Nov 02 09:38:56 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGMBZ-0003oB-RN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:38:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C662F477 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:38:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp110.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.110]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D1F27F4C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:38:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FA543C3.3050100@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:49:55 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Hello References: <3FA52E8D.2030902@bilkent.edu.tr> In-Reply-To: <3FA52E8D.2030902@bilkent.edu.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 6537 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list robin wrote: > Mr Ekted wrote: > >> I am new to lojban (maybe 8-10 hours of reading up on it). I find the >> concepts fascinating, particularly since I have been unhappy with all >> the stupidity of the English language all my life (conjugation, >> homonyms, silent letters, strict parts-of-speech, almost built-in >> ambiguity, etc.) So i just wanted to post to say hello, and make sure >> this is the right place for brand new lojbanites. > > > It is, although there is also a lojban-beginners list, which would be a > good place to post basic questions (some of the discussion on this list > can get very technical!). > >> mi rinsa le cmima (is that right?) > > > That says "I greet the member", which is perhaps what one of us might > say to you. If you want to greet a group which you are joining, you > could say "mi rinsa rodo" ("I greet all-of-you") but it would be more > normal just to say "coi rodo" - "Hello everyone!" > > Incidentally, I note that "rinsa" has "the arrival of" before x2, so > perhaps it would be inappropriate to say when it is you who are arriving. Erratum: Looking at it again, I see you were saying "I greet the members (of the Lojban list). In that case, you could say "mi rinsa _lei_ cmima", since you are greeting us collectively , rather than greeting each one of us in turn (unless you count an e-mail to a list as a large number of individual e-mails, I suppose). robin.tr -- "I declare this sentence a performative!" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin