From sentto-44114-21044-1067866502-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Nov 03 05:35:41 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AGerm-0006ib-MA for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:35:34 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21044-1067866502-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.98] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2003 13:35:03 -0000 X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55698 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 13:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2003 13:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 13:35:00 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGerD-0002aq-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:34:59 -0500 To: Mr Ekted Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20031103133459.GB32645@mercury.ccil.org> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:34:59 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Implied sumti ordering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 6541 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Mr Ekted scripsit: > x1 citka x2 (eats) > > If I say "fe le rectu cu citka mi" is this malglico? "mi" is technically > the third sumti right? But in this case, there are only two sumti > defined by the selbri, so does "mi" automatically become x1? No, the x1 slot remains open, so this means "You-know-who eats the meat in-some-way-associated-with me." Since citka has no defined x3 place, the exact nature of the relevance of "mi" to the relationship is not defined either. > But I'm trying to understand the extent of the ordering rules. If I > am correct, what happens with a 3 sumti selbri if I do the same thing? > > fe A cu selbri B > > In this case B is x3 by default? Yes, and x1 is still open. -- If you understand, John Cowan things are just as they are; http://www.ccil.org/~cowan if you do not understand, http://www.reutershealth.com things are just as they are. jcowan@reutershealth.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/