From sentto-44114-21075-1068030173-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Nov 05 03:03:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHLRc-0002lE-GS for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:03:24 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21075-1068030173-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.198] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2003 11:02:53 -0000 X-Sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 82135 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2003 11:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2003 11:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.8) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2003 11:02:52 -0000 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id r.21.36dbee84 (2612) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:02:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <21.36dbee84.2cda32d0@wmconnect.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Originating-IP: 64.12.136.8 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 06:02:40 EST Subject: [lojban] lluis's pronunciation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_21.36dbee84.2cda32d0_boundary" X-archive-position: 6572 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_21.36dbee84.2cda32d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i listened to the sound files again, this time looking at the two transcriptions (one was xod's, the other was xorxes's) while listening. i couldn't find the original text. where is it? the stresses on some of the cmavo were different from what i expected, but since the rules for cmavo stress are fairly lax, i only make this general comment. i also heard the stress in "djugypre" on the /e/, instead of on the /u/. the name "tcang" ended in the nasal, not in the /g/ sound (a commonplace of lojban renderings). some of the pauses/junctures between words took me by surprise too. e.g., "da (long pause) prenu..." stevo --part1_21.36dbee84.2cda32d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i listened to the sound files again, this time looking at the two transcriptions (one was xod's, the other was xorxes's) while listening.  i couldn't find the original text.  where is it?

the stresses on some of the cmavo were different from what i expected, but since the rules for cmavo stress are fairly lax, i only make this general comment.  i also heard the stress in "djugypre" on the /e/, instead of on the /u/.  

the name "tcang" ended in the nasal, not in the /g/ sound (a commonplace of lojban renderings).

some of the pauses/junctures between words took me by surprise too.  e.g., "da (long pause) prenu..."
stevo
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