From sentto-44114-21082-1068083392-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Nov 05 17:50:40 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHZI0-0001Kc-BC for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:50:24 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21082-1068083392-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2003 01:49:52 -0000 X-Sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 86450 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 01:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2003 01:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.81) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 01:49:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.144] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2003 01:49:51 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20031016233042.GL1016@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "hfroark" X-Originating-IP: 66.218.66.81 X-Yahoo-Profile: hfroark MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:49:50 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Posterity Badness. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6579 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:12:52AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > 'angeli'. > > > > > > Other than that, no idea. Having seen the word 'angeli', I > > > simply assumed that it was written by a very poor Lojbanist, and > > > didn't read the rest. I'm rather surprised to find out I was > > > wrong. > > > > That's an odd reaction. {angeli} is a valid fu'ivla, it is the > > type of culturally specific word that fu'ivla were meant for, and > > on top of that it has seen some usage other than in this piece. I > > remembered having read this passage on the list before, though I > > didn't remember it was from tsali. > > I don't like type-4. I *especially* don't like type-4 when > the concept is trivially expressible with a lujvo (in this case > cesru'i or cesycrida, take your pick). > > And I had no idea it was valid. My internal Lojban recognizer > screamed at the sight of it (a comment Bob has also often made), and > cmafihe choked on it. Actually, I think that there is a problem. If I am not missing a point, Lojban words inculding type-4 fu'ivla have to begin with a consonant or (mandatory) pause. So, "angeli" should be ".angeli", or the other changes including "xangeli" would also work. mu'o mi'e. rork. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/