From sentto-44114-21083-1068084644-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Nov 05 18:11:30 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.69]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHZcE-0002KJ-Pg for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:11:18 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21083-1068084644-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2003 02:10:45 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 29372 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 02:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Nov 2003 02:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 02:10:42 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 04CC14DFB; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200311052110.41646.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat X-Originating-IP: 208.150.110.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:10:41 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Posterity Badness. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6580 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday 05 November 2003 20:49, hfroark wrote: > Actually, I think that there is a problem. If I am not missing a > point, Lojban words inculding type-4 fu'ivla have to begin with a > consonant or (mandatory) pause. So, "angeli" should be ".angeli", or > the other changes including "xangeli" would also work. Yes, a word beginning with a vowel must be preceded by a pause, but it doesn't have to be written. It's better to write it, though. It is even possible, though hard to read, to omit all spaces in a sequence consisting of cmavo, all except possibly the first beginning with consonants and none containing 'y', and possibly one brivla beginning with a consonant at the end: {ilezdani belebarda angeli cublanu}. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500 titles. Free Shipping & No Late Fees. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I3w.vC/hP.FAA/3jkFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/