From sentto-44114-21113-1068315440-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Nov 08 10:18:00 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.64]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AIXei-0001dq-Kt for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:17:52 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21113-1068315440-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.195] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2003 18:17:21 -0000 X-Sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26388 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.187] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2003 18:16:44 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200311052110.41646.phma@webjockey.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "hfroark" X-Originating-IP: 66.218.66.92 X-Yahoo-Profile: hfroark MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:16:42 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Posterity Badness. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: hfroark@bigmailbox.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2003 20:49, hfroark wrote: > > Actually, I think that there is a problem. If I am not missing a > > point, Lojban words inculding type-4 fu'ivla have to begin with a > > consonant or (mandatory) pause. So, "angeli" should be ".angeli", or > > the other changes including "xangeli" would also work. > > Yes, a word beginning with a vowel must be preceded by a pause, but it doesn't > have to be written. It's better to write it, though. > > It is even possible, though hard to read, to omit all spaces in a sequence > consisting of cmavo, all except possibly the first beginning with consonants > and none containing 'y', and possibly one brivla beginning with a consonant > at the end: {ilezdani belebarda angeli cublanu}. I think that a brivla that requires a pause is unusual enough that a pause should be marked. mu'o mi'e. rork. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/