From sentto-44114-21116-1068471076-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Nov 10 05:31:29 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.70]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AJC8Y-0001NQ-Vr for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:31:23 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21116-1068471076-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2003 13:31:17 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48900 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2003 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2003 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2003 13:31:15 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26535AB62; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3FAF64F8.31446.1F7B3E@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FAF64F8.31446.1F7B3E@localhost> Message-Id: <200311100829.17705.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat X-Originating-IP: 208.150.110.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:29:17 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Verbing weirds language Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Monday 10 November 2003 04:14, Philip Newton wrote: > I was thinking of Calvin's statement that "every noun can be verbed". > > Then I considered how to say that in Lojban, before realising that it's > probably meaningless there. > > I think the equivalent in Lojban grammatical terms would be roughly > "every brivla can be used as a selbri", but if you told a Lojbanist > that, they'd probably react as if you had said "every gismu has five > letters", since both statements are (to me) tautologies. Actually the Lojban noun is the cmevla, but for common nouns we use brivla. There are no adjectives or adverbs in Lojban, and it has terminators, which occur in no other language that I know of, and the predicate marker, which occurs in tok Pisin. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/