From rspeer@MIT.EDU Sat Nov 15 12:21:38 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu ([18.7.7.76]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AL6vF-0007Mt-3E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:21:33 -0800 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id hAFKMgfU002271 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id hAFKMfSC013758 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.208.0.57]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id hAFKMe4e000661 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AL6wB-0003g2-00 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:22:31 -0500 From: Rob Speer To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: COI, UI (was Re: cfari) Message-ID: <20031115202231.GA14061@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20031115051825.GB9314@mit.edu> <20031115164257.88201.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031115164257.88201.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 6718 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:42:57AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > You can always resort to full explicit predicates: > > ko'a le zvati cu sepli lo mitre be li pare > Ko'a from here is separated by 12 meters. But that's still not "12 meters", it's "something that is 12 meters long". If ko'a and I are a meter away from each other, on opposite sides of a 12-meter plank, that would still be true. -- Rob Speer