From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 25 16:01:12 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1AOn7D-0005fT-F0 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:01:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:01:07 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Is srana symmetrical? Message-ID: <20031126000107.GI9729@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20031125064934.040179c0@pop.east.cox.net> <20031124184727.33947.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> <20031124180229.GR9729@digitalkingdom.org> <20031124184727.33947.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20031125064934.040179c0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20031125183800.03072010@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20031125183800.03072010@pop.east.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 6793 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:51:57PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > At 08:53 AM 11/25/03 -0500, John Cowan wrote: > >Bob LeChevalier scripsit: > > > > > Thus in English, relevance is not perfectly symmetric, though > > > I would have trouble characterizing the asymmetry. > > > >As Master Sorcerer Seamus O Lochlainn points out in the Randall > >Garrett mystery _Too Many Magicians_, it's not relevant to a gun > >which bullets it has fired, as the wear on a gun is primarily > >mechanical; but it is very relevant to a bullet which gun fired > >it -- a point extremely important to forensic ballistics whether > >thaumaturgical or not. > > I think that is "steci". The gun is steci to the (fired) bullet, > from which it can be determined that the bullet srana the gun (and > vice versa). So you believe that srana is symmetric? -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui