From sentto-44114-21302-1069844949-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 03:09:49 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.82]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AOxYE-0007NX-ST for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:09:42 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21302-1069844949-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2003 11:09:11 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66418 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 11:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2003 11:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 11:09:08 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A989DAB63; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20031125180200.GU9729@digitalkingdom.org> <20031125192257.GG9729@digitalkingdom.org> <1069835538.29757.12.camel@ludvig.safelogic.se> In-Reply-To: <1069835538.29757.12.camel@ludvig.safelogic.se> Message-Id: <200311260609.07286.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:09:07 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: bakyjba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6799 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday 26 November 2003 03:32, Martin Norbäck wrote: > The fruit that we in Sweden call "blåbär" [blueberry] is Vaccinium > myrtillus which may be what you call "bilberry". I've heard blueberries called "myrtilles" in French. That must be the species referred to. I've thought of calling them "mirtili" in Lojban. > They are very much blue, see for instance this picture: > http://www.voringfossen.com/flora/blaabaer.jpg > > The English "blueberry" seems to be Vaccinium corymbosum, which can be > found in North America and Asia. > > In general, since different plants grow in different places, the only > clean solution is to use the systematic names. There are some guidelines > for lojbanizing them in the CLL (Chapter 4.8). So the two different > blueberries would be "vakcinium.mirtilus" and "vakcinium.korimbosum". > > These a cmene but who cares. The proper way to make a common name in Lojban is to use a brivla with a cmene (which can be "la"+a brivla, as well as a cmevla) in x2. So "bakyjba be la mirtilus." Of course, colloquially we can just say "blanu bakyjba". phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/