From sentto-44114-21311-1070081584-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 20:53:40 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.71]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1APx6t-0002ce-0g for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:53:35 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21311-1070081584-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.160] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2003 04:53:04 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 27947 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 04:53:03 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9200C4E36; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200311282353.00551.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:53:00 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: element names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 6808 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tuesday 25 November 2003 21:11, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2003-11-25 2:24:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > > I actually would expect elements to be fu'ivla; they seem to be an > > obvious place for them. Or possibly lujvo based on atomic weight. > > i would use atomic number instead of atomic weight, saving atomic weight to > distinguish between isotopes. I would use lujvo based on atomic number only for the transuranic elements which don't have names yet, such as unununium (pavypavypavycmu). The rest should be gismu, lujvo, or fu'ivla on a case-by-case basis. If you want to specify the atomic weight, you can say {fi'o te ratni li N}, which is wordy, or someone could add another word to XI for superscripts since subscripts in chemical formulas mean the number of atoms. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/