From jexOm@free.fr Sat Nov 29 15:47:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.27] helo=mwinf0402.wanadoo.fr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQEng-0002nH-IO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:46:56 -0800 Received: from [81.48.151.158] (ASt-Lambert-106-1-2-158.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.48.151.158]) by mwinf0402.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 433E680008B for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:46:22 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <200311291819.39226.phma@webjockey.net> References: <20031119231250.4866.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> <200311192143.49294.phma@webjockey.net> <1FEC52DD-22B9-11D8-BC61-003065E00134@desquilbet.org> <200311291819.39226.phma@webjockey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <3B5B29DC-22C6-11D8-BC61-003065E00134@free.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: jexOm. Subject: [lojban] pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:46:20 +0100 To: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-archive-position: 6813 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jexOm@free.fr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Le 30 nov. 03, à 00:19, Pierre Abbat a écrit : > On Saturday 29 November 2003 17:12, Jérôme Desquilbet wrote: >>>> Is {besydi'u} a good lujvo for "x1 are the ruins of x2"? >>> >>> {besydi'u} I'm not sure what is. A building which is owned by a son? >>> {fesydi'u} could mean "a building where waste is stored"; I'm not >>> sure >>> which >>> meaning is more useful, or more common. >> >> What about {pofdi'u}? > > {pofydi'u} of course. An excellent suggestion, though the place > structure > (since {spofu} and {dinju} have the same) has to be "x1 is a building > which > can't be used for x2 anymore because it's ruined". Before I study this place structure issue: Why is the {y} needed? I thought that it was needed only if the consonnant pair is forbidden? Sorry if it is a beginners question. Thanks, Jérôme.