From sentto-44114-21320-1070152092-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Nov 29 16:28:49 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.73]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQFS8-0003az-7t for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:28:44 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21320-1070152092-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:13 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46226 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 00:28:12 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1EEC54DFB; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130001314.17921.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <200311291928.08885.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: pofydi'u (was: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 6818 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Saturday 29 November 2003 19:13, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > {fd} is a forbidden pair, because it is unvoiced-voiced. > {vd} and {ft} would be the corresponding voiced-voiced and > unvoiced-unvoiced pairs. Also a 'y' can be required if the word is a tosmabru. (I'm not sure what "tosmabru" is supposed to mean. "tos" isn't the rafsi of anything.) Some examples are jesyratcu (porcupine), jesymabru (hedgehog or spiny anteater, va'i ernace fa'u zalgosu), and bakyrectu (beef). If you drop the 'y' you get something from which the first two letters fall off. > How about {spoja'e}:{x1 jalge lo daspo be x2}. > "x1 is the result/outcome of the destruction of x2". Sounds good too. Use 'em both. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/