From rmcivor@macsrule.com Mon Dec 01 15:04:15 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.131] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AQx5N-0000Q1-R5 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:04:09 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.14] (214.92.35.65.cfl.rr.com [65.35.92.214]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1N3xcD024763 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:04:07 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <20031201170620.GA25519@mercury.ccil.org> References: <20031201170620.GA25519@mercury.ccil.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Robert McIvor Subject: [lojban] Re: Origins of the prim/gismu list Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:58 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-archive-position: 6836 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rmcivor@macsrule.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Dec 1, 2003, at 12:06 PM, John Cowan wrote: > What is known about the origins of the Loglan prim list? Did JCB just > cook up the English words out of his own head, or did he use some other > resources to do so? (As I am not a Yahoo group member, I cannot direct CC to the yahoo. group) My recollection is that he used a list of most frequently used concepts in four European languages by a Ms. Eaton. It was probably somewhat out of date, as there were some high frequency items like 'gold standard' that are not currently in vogue, but for regularly used words is probably reasonably accurate. The rest of the dictionary was made up to include all words up to a certain frequency level, with other words added as needed (such as computer terms and other concepts not current in the 1930s. There were probably other considerations such as the suitability for complex (lujvo) making Bob McIvor > > > -- > Is a chair finely made tragic or comic? Is the John Cowan > portrait of Mona Lisa good if I desire to see > jcowan@reutershealth.com > it? Is the bust of Sir Philip Crampton lyrical, > www.ccil.org/~cowan > epical or dramatic? If a man hacking in fury > www.reutershealth.com > at a block of wood make there an image of a cow, > is that image a work of art? If not, why not? --Stephen > Dedalus > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >