From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Fri Jan 09 16:01:02 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.155]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Af6Yj-0002mH-Cy for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:00:57 -0800 Message-ID: <20040110000026.33094.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.6.36] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:00:26 PST Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:00:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: shorthand for conversations To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 6953 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- "Adam D. Lopresto" wrote: > but those are different from > > Alice said that John's a fool. > > (indirect quote, may not have been her exact words), which is how I would > translate: > > cu'u la alis. la djan. bebna It is even stronger. If I say that, I am not just reporting what Alice said, I am claiming that John is a fool and that Alice is a sayer in that relationship that she has to John. But that John bebnas would be part of my claim, unlike the case of the indirect quote. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus