From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Feb 11 09:52:54 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.30) id 1AqyXZ-00071a-0Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:49 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jbofihe or book error? Message-ID: <20040211175249.GP8463@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040211124207.43220.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> <20040211125903.58441.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040211125903.58441.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 7090 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 04:59:03AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > In > > > http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.html, > > > ex. 15.9 does not parse with jbofihe. > > > > The correct sentence corresponding to the English is: > > > > nu'i ge la djan. bau la lojban. [nu'u] > > gi la frank. bai la djordj. [nu'u] cusku > > > > Or {joi gi} instead of {ge}, given that the text is about > > non-logical connectives. It is not clear what distinction is > > 15.9 supposed to make with respect to 15.8. > > I think the original intention might have been something like: > > do fa'u mi cusku nu'i fa'u gi fi la djan. bau la lojban. [nu'u] > gi fi la frank. bai la djordj. [nu'u] > > You and I speak, to John in Lojban, and to Frank compelled by > George, respectively. To match the English, wouldn't you want: la djan. fa'u la frank. cusku nu'i fa'u gi bau la lojban. [nu'u] gi bai la djordj. [nu'u] ? -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Constant neocortex override is the only thing that stops us all from running out and eating all the cookies." -- Eliezer Yudkowsky http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui