From sentto-44114-21619-1077198853-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 05:54:51 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.71]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AtodZ-0005FE-RD for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:54:45 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21619-1077198853-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2004 13:54:15 -0000 X-Sender: mail@raphael.poss.name X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 92723 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2004 13:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2004 13:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.zoper.com) (69.59.171.28) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 13:54:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 94281 invoked by uid 7802); 19 Feb 2004 13:54:11 -0000 Received: from mail@raphael.poss.name by beta.zettai.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamuko: 0.60. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:0(217.208.172.138):SA:0(-4.9/5.0):. Processed in 0.563333 secs); 19 Feb 2004 13:54:11 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO Knoppix.raphael.poss.name) (mail@raphael.poss.name@217.208.172.138) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 13:54:10 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <871xotse6l.fsf@raphael.poss.name> <04021720125701.04333@neofelis> In-Reply-To: <04021720125701.04333@neofelis> (Pierre Abbat's message of "Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:12:57 -0500") Message-ID: <87znbfnpj0.fsf@raphael.poss.name> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1004 (Gnus v5.10.4) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 69.59.171.28 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rapha=EBl_Poss?= X-Yahoo-Profile: poss_r MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:54:11 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: attempt at translating a famous quote Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-archive-position: 7122 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: grey.havens@free.fr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pierre Abbat writes: > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 14:23, Rapha=EBl Poss wrote: >> da poi ka'e te lebna lo ka genja zifre mu'i cpacu be le ruble ka snura z= o'u >> da na ka'e se cnemu ga le ka zifre gi le ka snura fa'o >> >> >> Not sure about "genja" tho... >> >> Comments are welcome. :) > > {mu'i} is a preposition without an object. I think you mean {mu'i lo nu},= or=20 > something like that. What you wrote means: > > Those who can give up a motiveful root-freedom getter of the weak securit= y,=20 > they cannot be rewarded by the freedom or the security. > > Freedom and security don't give the rewards; they are the rewards. You wa= nt=20 > {se cnemu fo}. New try: da poi ka'e te lebna lo ka jicmu zifre ku mu'i le za'i cpacu be le ruble ka snura zo'u da na ka'e se cnemu fo ga le ka zifre gi le ka snura fa'o Is that better ? --=20 . . . _ - --------\ : Rapha=EBl Poss JID Elrond@jabber.dk =B7 ICQ 1757157 | | EPITA CSI 2003 =B7 http://raphael.poss.name =B7 GnuPG fp ...3b72e72b : \------ - _ . . ' --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBANMAE18ht0zty5ysRAtm9AJ9UEAb3qnGt8jXdysSKOXi6fv7nMQCdEtiE h+Ett00oFcuh8zvDUH4U3lM= =R76E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--