From sentto-44114-21688-1078702523-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Mar 07 15:36:00 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B07oI-0003Nw-CF for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:35:54 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21688-1078702523-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.98] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2004 23:35:23 -0000 X-Sender: xeubie@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64452 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2004 23:35:22 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <404B6B19.9060306@thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.90 From: "la_okus" X-Originating-IP: 69.162.47.2 X-Yahoo-Profile: la_okus MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:35:20 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: translating the -ism's (xod) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7190 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xeubie@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la xod. cusku di'e > >krici [ kri ] believe > >x1 believes [without evidence/proof] belief/creed x2 (du'u) is true/ > >assumed about subject x3 > > > >Judging by this definition, krici seems closer to "faith" than > >"ideology". > > I assume you're referring to the "without evidence" part. That means > more that the evidence isn't relevant to the gismu itself, not that > there isn't any evidence at all. But many ideologies are religionistic. > And most religious people feel there is plenty of evidence behind their > practice. However, you might prefer instead veldjuno. Then how does it differ from birti? To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/