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From: "Jordan DeLong" <fracture@allusion.net>
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Subject: [lojban] CMENE=BRIVLA (was Re: Opinions on "mi viska le sa .i mi cusku zo .djan.")
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On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 08:36:05PM -0700, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> --- Jordan DeLong <fracture@allusion.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:54:04PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote:
> > > To me it is better if you just have to learn one pattern
> > [...]
> >=20
> > But isn't that kinda not the lojban way?
> >=20
> > Lojban takes the approach that it's better to learn more if it gives
> > you more power.  In this case, you spend a little to learn a little
> > more up front, and in return get to save syllables in the common
> > cases later.
>=20
> But saving a syllable here and there is not that much power. The
> ability to use names as brivla gives you a lot more expressive power:
>=20
>    ro djan poi mi djuno cu xabju le merko
>    Every John I know lives in the US.

[I think you meant sanji; djuno can't be used like that]

Realistically, you'd likely say something more like

	ro me la djan. ku poi mi sanji cu xabju le merko

The extra 3 syllables in that sentence are certainly going to be
more than paid for by all the elided {cu} in the rest of whatever
text/conversation is going on.

> > Let's leave "ease of learning" goal for the billion wanna-be
> > interlangs out there, no?
>=20
> It's not the main virtue of Lojban, I agree, but why make it
> difficult for no good reason?

I don't think it's difficult.

--=20
Jordan DeLong
fracture@allusion.net

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