From sentto-44114-21993-1081424883-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Apr 08 04:48:42 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.108]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBY1L-0002Am-0H for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:48:35 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-21993-1081424883-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2004 11:48:04 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@v21.me.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75015 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 11:48:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Apr 2004 11:48:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.v21.co.uk) (62.41.128.11) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 11:48:00 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([217.140.37.41]) by kaliber.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id i38Blp308272 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c41d5f$59496f60$42e1fea9@oemcomputer> To: References: <20040407033605.31989.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> <016d01c41ca2$bce943a0$a2e1fea9@oemcomputer> <20040407235223.GB66109@allusion.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 62.41.128.11 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:43:50 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: Opinions on "mi viska le sa .i mi cusku zo .djan." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7497 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@v21.me.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > So I suppose you could use {du}? {ro du be su'o la djan.} is > everything equal to one of the johns. or just "la djan" (= ro la djan) in standard pre-BF Lojban. > Probably the most explicit way to say "every john that I know", > without the ambiguity in xorxes' suggested {ro la djan.}: > > ro cmima be la'i djan. ku poi mi sanji ke'a cu xabju le merko You need "ro se cmene be zo djan", not "la'i djan", if anybody called 'John' counts as a candidate referent. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/