From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed Apr 14 06:24:18 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41903.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDkNA-0001WF-RL for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:24:12 -0700 Message-ID: <20040414132341.49822.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:23:40 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: the 17 tallest men To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20040414131042.GE25720@ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7550 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- John Cowan wrote: > Pierre Abbat scripsit: > > > But Lojban has grammatical setness and massness, so we can say "The > > subset which, considered as a mass, is tallest among the 17-element > > subsets". Since the place structure of pazemei is "x1 is the mass of > > set x2 which has 17 members x3", {le clarai ke nanmu pazemei} refers > > to the mass and {le clarai ke nanmu te pazemei} to the individuals. > > That works if we say (which is somewhat counterintuitive) that the > height of a mass of men is determined by totaling the heights of > the men inside the mass. It will also work for the average (mean), which may be more intuitive. It won't work for the mode or the median though. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html