From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sat May 01 20:29:02 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 01 May 2004 20:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.31) id 1BK7ex-0000eO-UM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 01 May 2004 20:28:56 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 20:28:55 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: acronyms take priority (Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals . . .) Message-ID: <20040502032855.GU14939@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 7625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 02:13:53AM -0000, la_okus wrote: > Furthermore, acronyms need the capital letters more than stressed > names do. Acutes are a pain to type, but stressed names will almost > certainly not be as common as acronyms. That *must* be a joke. I can neither type nor see accented characters in my setup. "a pain" simply doesn't cover it. Lojban sticks to pure ASCII for good reasons, and any changes to that will be made only over my rotting corpse. > BTW, hexadecimals were mentioned on the wiki. Since they hardly ever > appear in normal prose, probably only the guys of the math end will > ever care about it (does li ABC = li abubycy or li daufeigai?). It doesn't mean *anything* in standard Lojban, because ABC is a one-syllable cmene than doesn't lex (at least I don't think it does). The acronym convention is not standard. I was commenting on a problem it causes for interest's sake only. For the record: I *strongly* prefer capitalizing the whole syllable if we're going to go the character-modification route. If it was my language to re-write, I'd use some form of parenthising, such as pa. Has the advantage of losing something on the order of 21 symbols from the language. But it's not my language to re-write, and it never will be, and there you are. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi