From sentto-44114-22118-1083470123-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat May 01 20:56:00 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 01 May 2004 20:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.85]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BK854-0001AL-0j for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 01 May 2004 20:55:54 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22118-1083470123-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.29] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2004 03:55:23 -0000 X-Sender: xeubie@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53695 invoked from network); 2 May 2004 03:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2004 03:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2004 03:55:22 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.143] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2004 03:55:21 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040502032855.GU14939@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.92 From: "la_okus" X-Originating-IP: 69.162.47.2 X-Yahoo-Profile: la_okus MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 03:55:17 -0000 Subject: [lojban] acronyms take priority (Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals . . .) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7626 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xeubie@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > That *must* be a joke. > > I can neither type nor see accented characters in my setup. "a pain" > simply doesn't cover it. Lojban sticks to pure ASCII for good reasons, > and any changes to that will be made only over my rotting corpse. This argument has less shelf life than bread; ASCII will be long gone before your corpse has any chance to decompose. > > BTW, hexadecimals were mentioned on the wiki. Since they hardly ever > > appear in normal prose, probably only the guys of the math end will > > ever care about it (does li ABC = li abubycy or li daufeigai?). > > It doesn't mean *anything* in standard Lojban, because ABC is a > one-syllable cmene than doesn't lex (at least I don't think it does). I know that, I was speaking hypothetically. Hey, we're all in this for interest's sake. > For the record: I *strongly* prefer capitalizing the whole syllable if > we're going to go the character-modification route. Modifying only the vowel seems to be more true to the way it is really pronounced; the vowel is where the stress is. > > If it was my language to re-write, I'd use some form of parenthising, > such as pa. Has the advantage of losing something on the order of > 21 symbols from the language. But it's not my language to re- write, and > it never will be, and there you are. I remember someone telling you this wasn't a race to get the least number of symbols :-P okus ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/