From sentto-44114-22120-1083509834-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun May 02 07:57:55 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 May 2004 07:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.105]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BKIPZ-0002HR-TJ for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 02 May 2004 07:57:46 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22120-1083509834-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2004 14:57:14 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23980 invoked from network); 2 May 2004 14:57:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 May 2004 14:57:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 May 2004 14:57:12 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 79D2A4B91; Sun, 2 May 2004 14:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1ef.1f765210.2dc645e8@wmconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <1ef.1f765210.2dc645e8@wmconnect.com> Message-Id: <200405021057.09030.phma@webjockey.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 208.150.110.21 From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 10:57:09 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: syllabification rules Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 7628 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sunday 02 May 2004 08:39, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2004-05-02 5:21:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lojbab writes: > > I believe we specified rules back in the original morphology paper (which > > predates Lojban, being a modified version of a paper about TLI Loglan), > > notebook 3 "the present state of the loglan language" pp. 23-24: > "1.15 The Pair-from-the-Left Rule: The default rule for grouping a > written string of vowels into pairs is to start pairing them from the left > and to restart the pairing process at any marked pause or syllable-break > encountered. Once this is done we have to examine the pairs so made to see > whether they are obligatory monosyllables, obligatory disyllables, or > optional disyllables." then he gives the example [aiuiaoea] and resolves it > into syllables as (igh-wee-ow-EIGH-aa). > if there aren't any lojban rules, this could be a starting point, rather > than start from scratch. This is the same rule as in Lojban, except that [ao] is not a diphthong in Lojban, so it is pronounced [ai,ui,a,o,E,a]. Syllabicating consonants is more complicated because there are syllabic consonants and non-syllabic consonants, as well as pairs of consonants that can't appear at the beginning of a word. It is possible to have clusters longer than 2 with no initial pairs in the middle of a word, for instance {gejrxakpte} (don't ask me what the botanical name is, I just made it up); syllabicating such words requires that a syllable end or begin with a non-initial cluster. phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/