From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed May 05 06:56:39 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 May 2004 06:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41901.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BLMsp-00059w-Fg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:56:24 -0700 Message-ID: <20040505135550.62211.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 May 2004 06:55:50 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: Why capital letters standing in for letterals is a *bad* idea. To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <878yg7knlf.fsf@raphael.poss.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Raphaël_Poss wrote: > Just my 2¢ : IIRC my phonetics courses, when you speak the stress > appears on consonants, not vowels. More precisely, the stress is > indicated by a louder stream of air in the mouth while the consonant > is pronounced, usually by closing the appropriate parts of the mouth > more firmly or narrowing the open parts. The difference of intensity > in the vocalisation of syllabes (the vowels) during stress is much > less noticeable. Is this in general, or for some specific language? In Spanish there are words like "oía" where the stressed syllable is a single vowel, and the stress does not seem to me less noticeable than in "olía" or "podía". > This is why, IMHO, stress in Lojban should more logically be indicated > by capitalizing the consonants alone, not the vowels. > > mi DJica le nu Cilre la loJban. How can you tell it's Cilre and not ciLre, for example? Why loJban and not Lojban? In any case, Lojban's morphology requires you to identify a vowel carrying the stress to be able to sort out the stream of sounds into words. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover