From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Fri May 07 08:02:20 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 May 2004 08:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41903.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BM6rd-0003bQ-Hj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 May 2004 08:02:13 -0700 Message-ID: <20040507150135.95304.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 May 2004 08:01:35 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: My parser, SI, SA, and ZOI To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20040507005112.GL7020@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 7680 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 06:20:33PM -0400, Nora LeChevalier wrote: > > Also, from a making-sense point of view, I prefer "si" after the > > closing delimiter to delete the entire zoi phrase (back to and > > including the zoi). To say that "The first SI after the close of a > > ZOI clause erases the closing delimiter..." would make one think the > > next thing said is part of the inside of the ZOI; so you would never > > be able to get back to the ZOI. > > Yes, I understand your point completely. I'd love to hear other people > chime in on this point. The problem is that SI is only supposed to > erase one previous word, so we're moving in to the realm of "not > justifiable under current standards". I tend to agree with Nora. "Word" is not a very clearly defined word at this level anyway. Consider: {zoi gy Is this one word? gy bu} {bu} is suposed to turn the previous word into a lerfu. {zoi gy one word? gy zei zoi gy One word? gy} {zei} is supposed to make two words into a lujvo. So, if {bu} and {zei} take {zoi gy ... gy} to be a single word, {si} could just as well do the same thing. What does {da zo si si} do? mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover