From sentto-44114-22210-1084125696-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun May 09 11:02:15 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 May 2004 11:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.99]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BMsco-0002rl-NC for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 11:02:06 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22210-1084125696-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.27] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2004 18:01:36 -0000 X-Sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 34729 invoked from network); 9 May 2004 18:01:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2004 18:01:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m20.mx.aol.com) (64.12.137.1) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2004 18:01:35 -0000 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id r.6b.28f6911a (4262) for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 14:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6b.28f6911a.2dcfcbb1@wmconnect.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.12.137.1 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:00:17 EDT Subject: [lojban] nuts! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6b.28f6911a.2dcfcbb1_boundary" X-archive-position: 7724 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_6b.28f6911a.2dcfcbb1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2004-05-09 9:04:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jim Carter < jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU> writes: > fetsi klupe (fetyklupe?) = female screw. This male/female metaphor is > standard, at least in electrical engineering. > i'd broaden it to all engineering, including automotive engineering and carpentry, at least in english. whether it's so in other languages i don't know. i just looked up the russian, which is "gajka - female screw, nut". 'female' there means 'enveloping, enclosing' (okhvatyvayushchij) or 'embracing, enveloping' (obnimayushchij). so, at least in russian, the metaphor is lost. stevo --part1_6b.28f6911a.2dcfcbb1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2004-05-09 9:04:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jim Carter <jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU> writes:


fetsi klupe (fetyklupe?) = female screw.  This male/female metaphor is
standard, at least in electrical engineering.

i'd broaden it to all engineering, including automotive engineering and carpentry, at least in english.  whether it's so in other languages i don't know.  

i just looked up the russian, which is "gajka - female screw, nut".  'female' there means 'enveloping, enclosing' (okhvatyvayushchij) or 'embracing, enveloping' (obnimayushchij).

so, at least in russian, the metaphor is lost.
stevo

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