From rspeer@MIT.EDU Sun May 09 17:07:14 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 May 2004 17:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BMyK3-0007bq-Hm for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 17:07:07 -0700 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i4A075LM010480 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i4A075YK028426 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.208.0.57]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i4A074Fk029463 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMyK6-0005Kn-00 for ; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:07:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 20:07:10 -0400 From: Rob Speer To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: my new idea for onomato's Message-ID: <20040510000710.GA20485@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-archive-position: 7730 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 11:22:27PM -0000, la_okus wrote: > ok, I made a thread a while back about onomatopoeias. I've come up > with a new idea for how a computer can parse them unambiguously: > > Define sa'ei as "everything following this cmavo is an onomatopoeia > until it repeats". This allows you to make the word without regard > to cmene rules. And onomatopoeias are usually found in repeated > pairs anyway (especially japanese ones: gero-gero, ira-ira, gocha- > gocha). > > Would this be parsable? sa'ei mumu? Not easily. This makes the language not at all context-free. And to parse such a phrase, you have to maintain an arbirtrarily large stack. Besides, how is doubling the word any better than adding a consonant to it? The only advantage seems to be cuteness. -- Rob Speer