From sentto-44114-22321-1084537365-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri May 14 05:23:25 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 14 May 2004 05:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n50.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.67.38]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BObie-00033k-U1 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 05:23:17 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22321-1084537365-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.28] by n50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2004 12:22:45 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95596 invoked from network); 14 May 2004 12:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2004 12:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web41904.mail.yahoo.com) (66.218.93.155) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2004 12:22:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20040514122235.41814.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 May 2004 05:22:35 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040514033651.GB18460@ccil.org> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.93.155 From: Jorge "Llambías" X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 05:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: word for "action" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 7836 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- John Cowan wrote: > Jorge Llamb?as scripsit: > > > {zukte} only covers volitional actions, mostly things done by > > people, but not a rock falling for example. > > I think it would be bizarre to call the event of a rock falling an > "action" in English. I'd even be reluctant to call a reflex reaction > an "action", though that's a narrower case. Googling for "the action of the kidneys" I got 229 hits, with things like: "The action of the kidneys is vital and so kidney failure is serious." Googling for "the action of a rock falling" I got only one: "The action of a rock falling to the earth is a process that is entirely dependent upon the nature of the rock - a thing affected by gravity." Bizarre? I assume neither of those is a se zukte nor a se gasnu. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/