From sentto-44114-22325-1084543583-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri May 14 07:07:07 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 14 May 2004 07:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n46.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.67.23]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOdKw-0004dz-Pq for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 07:06:55 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-22325-1084543583-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2004 14:06:23 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25624 invoked from network); 14 May 2004 14:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 May 2004 14:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web41908.mail.yahoo.com) (66.218.93.159) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 May 2004 14:06:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20040514140526.88529.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 May 2004 07:05:26 PDT To: John Cowan Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20040514131102.GD26335@ccil.org> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.93.159 From: Jorge "Llambías" X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: word for "action" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 7840 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- John Cowan wrote: > Jorge Llamb?as scripsit: > > > Googling for "the action of the kidneys" I got 229 hits, > > with things like: "The action of the kidneys is vital and > > so kidney failure is serious." > > It's medical jargon, which often personifies things like organs. But this usage goes far beyond medical jargon: "The similar result of the action of the moon upon the earth is called nutation." "If humans lack free will, then our actions fall into exactly the same category as the action of a falling stone." "Its flight is generally referred to as gliding, but soaring is a more accurate term to describe the action of a flying glider (see Aerial Sports)." "These piles of loose rock were formed by the action of water creeping into cracks in the rock and freezing." So it may be personification, but it's not just jargon. In any case, my impression was that Xah Lee was looking for a word that covers {citka}, {farlu} and {plipe} but does not include {blabi} or {prenu}. So more than se zukte but less than nunco'e. {nunco'e} does include {nu blabi} ("being white") and nu prenu ("being a person"). mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/