From adam@pubcrawler.org Fri May 14 08:04:39 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 14 May 2004 08:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal.seas.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.102]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BOeEi-0005W5-CU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 08:04:32 -0700 Received: from clarion.cec.wustl.edu (clarion.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.3]) by postal.seas.wustl.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i4EF4CJ25281 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 10:04:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by clarion.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i4EF4OSw002880 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 10:04:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clarion.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 10:04:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: y: what is it good for? In-Reply-To: <20040514003615.GQ4461@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: References: <20040513183600.GJ4461@digitalkingdom.org> <20040514003615.GQ4461@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Status: No, -5.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Report: -5.8/5.0 ---- Start SpamAssassin results -5.80 points, 5 required; * -0.0 -- Has a valid-looking References header * 0.0 -- Message-Id indicates a non-spam MUA (Pine) * -0.4 -- Has a X-Authentication-Warning header * -0.4 -- Has a In-Reply-To header * -0.5 -- BODY: Contains what looks like an email attribution * 0.0 -- BODY: {2}Letter - garbage - {1}Letter * 0.6 -- BODY: {2}Letter - punctuation - {1}Letter * -4.7 -- BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam probability is 10 to 20% [score: 0.1909] * -0.4 -- BODY: Contains what looks like a quoted email text * 0.0 -- Reply with quoted text ---- End of SpamAssassin results X-archive-position: 7842 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thu, 13 May 2004, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I can absolutely see both sides of this argumunt, all the way from > > "only zoi can quote y, period" through to "even ba'e works on y", and > > I'd like other people's opinions. > > Just for the record, no-one has actually answered the question. JFTR, and not that my opinion matters overmuch, but I lean very heavily toward "only zoi can quote y, period". I know that's how I'd actually use the language in practice (I'd really hate to start to have to hesititate to hesitate, not being sure whether it's allowed here or not). I almost wish ybu weren't, and were replaced with something like pensi bu, but that's going way too far. -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ Keyboard not found. Think F1 to continue.