From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 15 10:39:52 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BaHuS-0006FN-TI for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:39:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:39:44 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: the long and short of it Message-ID: <20040615173944.GV10520@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <63.2d4eaa18.2e007b04@wmconnect.com> <200406151253.32918.phma@phma.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406151253.32918.phma@phma.hn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 8091 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 12:53:32PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 15 June 2004 12:17, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > > why not still use "clani" (and "tordu" for short) and use 'time' in > > the dimension slot? > > Makes sense to me - time is usually by far the longest dimension of an > object. Time is not a dimension. Dimensions are, definitionally, axis of freedom; as we can only "move" one direction in time, it doesn't count. Furthermore, there's no evidence that time is movement in any sense whatsoever; it could be that there is a granular smallest time interval, and that what we call time is merely the progression of states of the universe over units of that size. We don't know. Time is often used as a dimension in graphing various physical effects because it makes things easier to deal with. That doesn't magically make it a dimension. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "Many philosophical problems are caused by such things as the simple inability to shut up." -- David Stove, liberally paraphrased. http://www.lojban.org/ *** loi pimlu na srana .i ti rokci morsi