From rspeer@MIT.EDU Fri Jul 30 10:51:47 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.32) id 1BqbXg-00057j-2W for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:51:40 -0700 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i6UHorw8027041 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id i6UG4cQG000792 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.208.0.57]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i6UG4bRg010662 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BqZs5-00013I-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:04:37 -0400 From: Rob Speer To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: jimpe: Language Processing in Lojban Message-ID: <20040730160437.GB3982@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20040729215411.GA11429@nerd-xing.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i X-archive-position: 8364 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 09:38:13AM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > Also, I am personally curious about how you do Natural Language Generation > in Lojban. To be honest, we don't do much of it yet. We have some basic functions to turn semantic objects back into Lojban, but it ends up in a rather obtuse form with all the terminators in it (and if you have quantifiers, they're all in prenex form). So we don't actually get the output "ua la bab na crino" yet. We get something like "ua naku la bab [cu] na crino [vau]". But we have plenty of time to fix this. (Submitting a paper involves some amount of projection into the future, because we have to submit the paper for approval six weeks before the conference. If we're accepted, we get to revise the paper before the conference.) But if anyone has suggestions on how to determine which terminators are elidable (for example, how does Nora's random sentence generator do it?) that would be really helpful for the project. -- Rob Speer