From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed Aug 18 08:47:48 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxSf4-00080m-0f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:47:38 -0700 Message-ID: <20040818154708.94339.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:47:07 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: use of {co'e} and other cmavo in lujvo To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <200408181120.49430.phma@phma.hn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 8486 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la pier cusku di'e > I found {malkemcombau} in jbovlaste and got stumped figuring out what its > place structure should be. Probably a generalization of "malglico". What's the place structure of {malglico}? > I've thought of using {co'e} for making the > equivalent of denominal verbs, e.g. {ko remco'e le tcana} "man the station", That sounds very malglico to me. What has being a human being got to do with operating or taking position at a "station"? Is the idea that only a human being could do that job? > and have made up {comdaidza} "thingamajig" (along with {rodbo'e} and a couple > of others). But what's {combau}? Probably intended as "whatever language" or something. {bangu be makau}? > Then there's {jomcmi}. That is glossed as "set union" but the place structure > has a stray "j" and doesn't make sense. Since {jo'e} has no place structure > and there's nothing preceding it, I'm stumped. I would take {jo'e zei cmima} to have place structure: {x1 cmima x2 jo'e x3}, i.e "x2 is a member of the union of x2 and x3". i.e. "x1 is a member of either x2 or x3 (or both)". Or even better "x1 is a memnber of x1 and x2 and x3 and..." with an indefinite place structure. > Then there's {bu} - why that has a rafsi I don't know. That's one of Lojban's mysteries. >{le borbu'i javjve cu > lemroito'e zorzo'i} mi oi zei cai mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail