From sentto-44114-23021-1093892518-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Aug 30 12:04:41 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.101]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C1rSA-0005T2-2h for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:04:30 -0700 Received: from [66.218.66.159] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2004 19:01:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15787 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 19:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Aug 2004 19:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.36) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2004 19:01:54 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (mail [65.246.141.36]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14950; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:01:52 -0400 To: klaus schmirler Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20040830190151.GP3661@skunk.reutershealth.com> References: <200408272104.18139.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040829200834.GA14095@fysh.org> <200408291747.23681.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040830122901.GA19871@fysh.org> <537d06d004083008564153441a@mail.gmail.com> <41335B3C.50801@online.de> In-Reply-To: <41335B3C.50801@online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 65.246.141.36 From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:01:52 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: [was]: names of the elements Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 8584 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list klaus schmirler scripsit: > Question: since rounded vowels (except maybe back vowels > where the difference is hard to hear--i don't know of any > language that opposes rounded and unrounded back vowels) Vietnamese is probably the best known. > don't exist in lojban, would it be permissible to introduce > rounded allophones? for instance in order to show that you > know other languages besides lojban [bashful snickereen on > my part]. Certainly. In Lojban, ö and ü are heard as e and i respectively. -- He played King Lear as though John Cowan someone had played the ace. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Eugene Field http://www.reutershealth.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/