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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.hn.org>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: a few lujvo questions from a beginner
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On Saturday 18 September 2004 20:55, Glenn Alexander wrote:
> I've joined the learning list and downloaded some basic materials, but
> have a few getting-ahead-of-myself questions I thought might be more
> appropriate here.
>
> Firstly, I am trying to construct a lojban lujvo name for my
> sub-culture group. Using web-dictionaries, I hashed together:
>
> prece'us
>
> trying to mean 'people's community' (btw: good work separating the
> concept of human from person). If references to a community focus on
> artistic expression and scientific enquiry could be slipped in without
> making a bloated monster, that might be nice too, but for the moment,
> have I constructed the above lujvo appropriately?

The lujvo is {prece'u}. {prece'us} is a cmevla, but in cmevla made from rafsi 
it's more common to use a consonant-final rafsi than to use a vowel-final 
rafsi and add a consonant, thus {precem}.

Also if "la" or "doi" is in a cmevla one has to be careful that it don't break 
up. E.g. Belarus is {la blabruk}, not {la labruk}, which breaks up.

> Next, how would I state the following labels:
>
>   full organ donor
>   partial organ donor
>   non organ donor

{rango dunda}, but what's a partial organ donor? Does he give half a liver or 
a third of a lung?

>   full citizen (of what left implied, if possible)
>   provisional citizen (of what left implied, if possible)

{mulno selgugycmi}, {denpa selgugycmi}

> FYI, I'm trying -- mostly for fun, but also as a demo for others in my
> community -- to translate my ID card.

Hee hee!

phma
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