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From: jordi mas <jordimastrullenque@yahoo.com>
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coi maten.

thx

--- Martin Bays <jboste@zugzwang.port5.com> wrote:
> All vowels are long in Lojban, except {y}. But
> {martin} is pronounced
> something like "maa-r-teen" (with the 'r' pronounced
> in one of a number of
> ways, none of which I can do right... see
>reference_grammar/chapter3.html)

According to that page, "for ``r'', [all
rhotic sounds] are equally acceptable." And
according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_consonant
an English R is a rothic sound. So, couldn't
you just use an English R?

> > How do I mark the focus in lojban?
> 
> {ba'e} is the official way to emphasize constructs.
> So (ignoring the "hey"):
> 
> {do tavla fi le ba'e mi speni}
> 
> Would emphasise the fact that the wife in question
> pertains to me. 

The idea was emphasising the fact that there
is a relation between her and me, as opposed
to her being unrelated to me, not that she is the wife
of me as opposed to being the wife of
somebody else. In that sense, would "ba'e le mi speni"
or " le mi ba'e speni " work ???

> Perhaps spelling out how she pertains
would emphasise
> further, as would bringing her
> nearer the front of the sentence:
> 
> {do fi le speni be ba'e mi ku tavla}

Now that we are at it, why not even
nearer, like this:

{fi ba'e le speni be mi be'o fa do tavla}

But anyway --- are you sure that displacing sumti
towards the front to show emphasis is not malrarbau?

mu'o mi'e jordis.


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