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Jorge Llambías wrote:
> --- robin.tr wrote:
> 
>>Sorry, I meant "bridi". But it seems that if {mi e do na klama le zarci} 
>>means that neither I nor you go to the store, then what we are doing is 
>>modifying the brivla, i.e. we're saying "I and you do something other 
>>than go to the store" which is pretty much the same as saying {mi e do 
>>na'e klama le zarci}, isn't it?
> 
> 
> {e}, like {na}, is a bridi operator.
> We can apply first {e} and then {na}, or first {na} and then {e}.
> 
> Option 1:
> 
>   mi e do na klama le zarci
> = naku mi e do na klama le zarci
> = naku ge mi klama le zarci gi do klama le zarci
> = ga mi na klama le zarci gi do na klama le zarci
> 
> Option 2:
> 
>   mi e do na klama le zarci
> = ge mi na klama le zarci gi do na klama le zarci
> 
> In 1, {na} has scope over {e}. In 2, {e} has scope over {na}.
> Option 2 does not say that you and I do something else to 
> the store. It just says that I don't go there and you don't 
> go there.
> 

OK, I see what you mean now.

robin.tr


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