From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 21 20:15:25 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CW5bh-0005jV-Jo for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:17 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Empasizing an entire structure in forethought? Message-ID: <20041122041517.GK28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20041120175240.GR28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041120235959.81899.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041120235959.81899.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 9027 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 03:59:59PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 12:20:30PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > On Saturday 20 November 2004 12:01, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > On IRC, I had cause to translate "Do not be to quick to deal > > > > in death and judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all > > > > ends." > > > > > > Isn't "even" in this sense {ji'asai}? So you could say {lo > > > ji'asai mutce prije}. > > > > I don't think so. Arnt said (in IRC): > > > > You're implicitly creating a scale from the wisest to the > > dumbest, and saying that the wise cannot see all ends, so > > therefore everyone who is less wise can't see it either. > > That fits with my understanding of {ji'asai}. I always use > {ji'asai} for "even". I use {ji'a} for "also". You're saying that the {sai} alters the meaning to make it an exceptional "also"? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/