From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 22 11:15:59 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ChBxe-0001Mq-1t for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:15:50 -0800 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:15:49 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Founders: ja'o and ni'ikri Message-ID: <20041222191549.GR20429@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20041222184225.GN20429@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041222190005.GE6612@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041222190005.GE6612@skunk.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 9107 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:00:05PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > > Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > > > The definition for ja'o mentions "ni'ikri", which is not in > > NORALUJV. It seems inherently contradictory to me; what was it > > intended to mean? > > I think it dates back to the days before the krici/jinvi > distinction was clearly understood. OK. So what would it mean with jinvi? > In any event, the definition of "krici" as believing without > evidence/proof is probably too strong: it should be more like > believing with or without evidence/proof. Adding "regardless" to jbovlaste, barring BPFK objections. (Thank goth; that's always bothered me.) -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/