From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 31 16:44:42 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CkXNk-0007As-0u for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:44:36 -0800 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:44:36 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Time duration issues. Message-ID: <20050101004436.GF2596@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 9136 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list A long-standing issue with the language has been people wanting to say "I spent 5 minutes walking to the market" with a sentence of the form "mi klama lo zarci ZI lo mentu be li mu", where VA is some sumtcita. I'd like to re-open this dialogue with a couple of ideas. The spatial equivalent, "I covered 5 meters walking to the market", seems to me to be a bit easier. The definition for "fe'eca'o" in the cmavo list seems to imply that that's the way to do it, but it seems to me that ne'i would also be fine. It also seems that "vi'i" is just about made for this. The definition of "fe'eca'o" implies that ca'o is the Right Way to do this in time tenses, but I'm pretty sure that this no longer works with the BPFK's definition of ca'o. It seems to me that a temporal equivalent of ne'i or vi'i would fix things right up. Many of use have been using ZI, such as "mi klama le zarci zi lo mentu be li mu", but that apparently causes problems. I can't actually remember what problems it causes; can someone chime in on that? Thanks. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/