From adam@pubcrawler.org Wed Jan 26 14:23:46 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.14]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1CtvZb-0007DZ-5I for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:23:39 -0800 Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0QMN5MA019691; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id j0QMN58u019688; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:05 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: hive.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:23:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: minimal lojban In-Reply-To: <6862c94d793e32d6c4fd70874e40074c@online.fr> Message-ID: References: <20050126132740.61853.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> <20050126194142.GT20235@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <41F80A9A.6020106@eubot.com> <20050126213417.GL20235@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <6862c94d793e32d6c4fd70874e40074c@online.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-58716651-2078796390-1106778185=:19373" X-archive-position: 9355 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---58716651-2078796390-1106778185=:19373 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hive.cec.wustl.edu id j0QMN5MA019691 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Rapha=EBl Poss wrote: > > Le 26 janv. 05, =E0 22:34, Robin Lee Powell a =E9crit : > >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 04:24:42PM -0500, Brian Eubanks wrote: >>> 2. Reduce each Lojban utterance into a collection of binary >>> (2-sumti) predicates. >>=20 >> Can you tell me how that works with, say, "da klama de di mi do" ? >>=20 > Why wouldn't it just be something like A isa klama-instance A first-sumti B A second-sumti C A third-sumti D A fourth-sumti E A fifth-sumti F B isa KOhA B ID #1 (da) C isa KOhA C ID #2 (de) etc. (I'm still not sure about the KOhA things, and how you distinguish da/de/di from mi/do, but...) > Simplified : > > A isa tavla-instance > A first-sumti B > A second-sumti C > > B isa KOhA > B ID #1 (da) > > C isa KOhA > C ID #2 (de) > > A isa tesete-tavla-instance > A first-sumti B > A second-sumti D > > D isa KOhA > D ID #3 (di) > > A isa veseve-tavla-instance > A first-sumti B > A second-sumti E > > E isa KOhA > E ID #4 (mi) > > A isa xesexe-tavla-instance > A first-sumti B > A second-sumti F > > F isa KOhA > F ID #5 (do) > > Quite verbose, but it works. > > --=20 Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ Many people, meeting Aziraphale for the first time, formed three impressi= ons:=20 that he was English, that he was intelligent, and that he was gayer than = a=20 tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) ---58716651-2078796390-1106778185=:19373--