From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 28 11:28:22 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cubmx-0005J6-Bk for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:28:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:28:15 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Opinions, please: SA by structure Message-ID: <20050128192815.GV20235@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20050122151208.56261.qmail@web41907.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050122151208.56261.qmail@web41907.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 9367 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list All usages in this thread have been verified in my current version, unless I specifically state otherwise. On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 07:12:08AM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > 3) What happens if you try to back out a construct that hasn't > > actually occurred? {.i casnu sa mi}, for instance. > > That would erase everything, I would say. No solution to this is currently implemented. Opinions welcome. > > 6) In general, using a structural approach instead of a strictly > > word-form approach worries me in the presence of grammatical > > errors, and correcting errors is what {sa} and friends are all > > about. {sa} can still be used to correct grammatical errors. {mi klama co co co sa do klama} becomes {do klama}. Given "START STUFF SA STRUCT", where START is a valid starter word for STRUCT, only the things before START (exclusive) and after STRUCT (inclusive) must be grammatical. > > Specifically, I wonder whether you could confuse the parser > > enough that you couldn't get it to replace what you want. {mi > > nelci le .djan. sa la .djan.} But *{le .djan.} isn't > > grammatical, so will we be able to Do the Right Thing? > > In principle yes, Also in practice: text sentence |- CMAVO | KOhA: mi |- bridiTail3 |- BRIVLA | gismu: nelci |- sumti6 |- CMAVO | LA: la |- CMENE cmene: djan -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/