From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Sun Feb 13 05:30:10 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0Jok-0003T9-Cl for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:29:42 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3184C6126; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:29:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Archivist: Counterexamples to general fu'ivla lujvo making Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:29:09 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502130829.09923.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 9461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list The Book says: "Many attempts were made to add general mechanisms for making lujvo that contained fu'ivla, but all failed on obvious or obscure counterexamples; finally the general ``zei'' mechanism was devised instead." Xorxes has come up with a morphology that purports to make lujvo from all fu'ivla and even cmene. Can someone dig up the counterexamples? phma -- A man found gold and left a rope; but he who found No gold he left did tie the rope around.