From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Feb 17 11:12:05 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1D1r49-0005k8-Oe for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:11:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:11:57 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: topicality Message-ID: <20050217191157.GC11349@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 9490 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 08:01:23AM -0500, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 2005-02-17 5:21:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, > lojbab via ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > All places of a predicate are equal. > > How then is topicality determined? In many languages topicality > decreases as one continues speaking a sentence, i.e., it's greater > at the beginning of the sentence and decreases toward the end. > This scheme would work well, I think, for Lojban, too, since it's > easy to alter the place structure. That's certainly how I use it. Howevery, it's orthogonal to the point: lo botpi be fo zi'o is not a botpi, because all places are equal. It's something else. lo julne be fi zi'o is not a julne, and so on. Similarily, defining a brivla without defining a place structure is meaningless. -robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/