From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 18 11:54:02 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DCNXe-00059U-T7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:53:54 -0800 Received: from n2a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.36]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DCNXc-00058W-MC for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:53:54 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2005 19:53:17 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.32] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2005 19:53:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: ben@goertzel.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 33293 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 19:53:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2005 19:53:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intelligenesiscorp.com) (208.234.8.229) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 19:53:15 -0000 Received: from PICKLEWOMAN (vetta.vettatech.com [200.196.45.33]) by intelligenesiscorp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j2IJr6xP030685 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: <025f01c52c04$dfb3efd0$7800020a@PICKLEWOMAN> To: References: <44275d07f070dd249c78acf2c8fd2536@xahlee.org> <012501c52bcd$08e877f0$7800020a@PICKLEWOMAN> <20050318181122.GL26000@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <022c01c52bf9$a5613730$7800020a@PICKLEWOMAN> <20050318193250.GP26000@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Originating-IP: 208.234.8.229 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Ben Goertzel" X-Yahoo-Profile: bgoertzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:53:08 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban ills: implicit emphasis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_025C_01C52BDA.F632B3B0" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ben@goertzel.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C52BDA.F632B3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yah, you're right -- even with my primitive level of Lojban knowledge, I ca= n see that SE cmavo could be removed without dramatic loss of usability (th= ough as a fan of combinatory logic, I would hate to see them go .. se is wh= at is called the C combinator in combinatory logic ;-) ben -----=20 > With Lojban, clearly there are no (or hardly any) mechanisms that > could be removed and still leave the language usable.....=20=20 Not true. You could drop all of the mekso cmavo, FA, and SE with only very minor restrictions resulting. In fact, (with my parser at least), you could drop BAI, which is the largest cmavo group in the language, as well. ------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C52BDA.F632B3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yah, you're right -- even with my primitive level of Lojban knowledge, I can see that SE cmavo could be removed without dramatic loss of usability (though as a fan of combinatory logic, I would hate to see them go .. se is what is called the C combinator in combinatory logic ;-)

ben

----- > With Lojban, clearly there are no (or hardly any) mechanisms that > could be removed and still leave the language usable..... Not true. You could drop all of the mekso cmavo, FA, and SE with only very minor restrictions resulting. In fact, (with my parser at least), you could drop BAI, which is the largest cmavo group in the language, as well.

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