From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 18 17:08:30 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DCSRy-000320-T9 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:08:22 -0800 Received: from web81309.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DCSRw-00030X-Q0 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:08:22 -0800 Message-ID: <20050319010749.71865.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:07:49 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: SE with conjunctions To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9617 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Well, as noted recently, SE is mainly a rhetorical device, with a little logical value for scopes and maybe some other things. --- Pierre Abbat wrote: > SE is grammatical with both logical and > non-logical conjunctions, but the only > usage mentioned in the refgram is {se} with > logical conjunctions, of which > the only ones it makes a difference with are > {u/ju/gi'u/gu'u/gu}. What does > {te ju} mean? Does {se} make a difference with > any JOI (I think it should > with {ce'o}, {fa'u}, and, if I understand it > right, {pi'u})? > > phma > -- > Maintenant, j'ai besoin d'une loupe pour > trouver mes lunettes! > -Les Perles de la médecine > > > >