From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 25 10:04:43 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DEtAi-0006IY-Fu for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:04:36 -0800 Received: from n3a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.37]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DEtAf-0006Ht-0y for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:04:36 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:58 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.30] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: ben@goertzel.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39393 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intelligenesiscorp.com) (208.234.8.229) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from zombiethustra (pcp06586041pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [69.140.24.121]) by intelligenesiscorp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j2PI3qGj025966; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:03:53 -0500 To: "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" , Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <1349197024.20050325185654@yandex.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Originating-IP: 208.234.8.229 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Ben Goertzel" X-Yahoo-Profile: bgoertzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:00 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: tanru Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9642 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ben@goertzel.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The loquacious beginner will try his unsteady hand at answering a question again ;-) Lojban dictionary says: " school 4. ckule (kul cu'e): x1 is |/institute/academy at x2 teaching subject(s) x3 to audience/community x4 operated by x5 [also college, university] " So according to my limited knowledge, a nice, clear phrasing would be ti [cu] ckule fi le cmalu nanla But your phrasing in terms of a tanru is also correct, though more ambiguous as the tanru "cmalu nanla ckule" has a lot of possible interpretations On the other hand, to say This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard "school" you could say ti cmalu le nanla le ckule Here, the English-article-like cmavo "le" marks nanla and ckule as sumti rather than components of a tanru -- Ben G -----Original Message----- From: Aleksej R. Serdyukov [mailto:deletesoftware@yandex.ru] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:57 AM To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lojban] tanru coi ro do (I am ill now, so excuse me if I write some gibberish or act stupid) "ti [cu] cmalu nanla ckule [vau] This is-a small- boys school. This is a school for small boys." How do I know that this is not: This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard "school" , e.g., "Boy of this thing is small by standard "school"" ? -- To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Hi,
 
The loquacious beginner will try his unsteady hand at answering a question again ;-)
 
Lojban dictionary says:
 
"
school 4. ckule (kul cu'e): x1 is |/institute/academy at x2 teaching subject(s) x3 to audience/community x4 operated by x5 [also college, university] 
"
 
So according to my limited knowledge, a nice, clear phrasing would be
 
ti [cu] ckule fi le cmalu nanla
 
But your phrasing in terms of a tanru is also correct, though more ambiguous as the tanru "cmalu nanla ckule" has a lot of possible interpretations
 
On the other hand, to say
 
This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard
"school"
 
you could say
 
ti cmalu le nanla le ckule
 
Here, the English-article-like cmavo "le" marks nanla and ckule as sumti rather than components of a tanru
 
-- Ben G
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Aleksej R. Serdyukov [mailto:deletesoftware@yandex.ru]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:57 AM
To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lojban] tanru

coi ro do

(I am ill now, so excuse me if I write some gibberish or act stupid)

"ti     [cu]    cmalu   nanla   ckule   [vau]
This            is-a small-     boys    school.
This is a school for small boys."

How do I know that this is not:
This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard
"school"
, e.g., "Boy of this thing is small by standard "school""
?


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